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05/18/2023
RESPONSES/COMMENTS
RE: Unequal Treatment of Ex-Patriot DPMs by ABPM
From: Jeff Carnett, DPM
There are many of us American trained DPMs working overseas who are not eligible to be board certified by either board as we did one or two-year residencies, but not three-year programs. So, how shocking to see that ABPM will certify those with bachelor degrees in podiatry from the UK, SA, Australia, Malta, and New Zealand who did not take the MCAT, have no basic medical sciences in their courses, and no residencies. These degrees are right from high school.
Doesn't that discredit anyone with the ABPM certification in the U.S.? So, we expatriate DPMs need to take a bachelor podiatry degree so we can get certified, but we can't get certified with a CPME-approved DPM degree and residency? I’m trying to understand how that helps the profession. While overseas, our work is often highly surgical, but alas that doesn't count.
Jeff Carnett, DPM. Auckland, New Zealand
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06/25/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1C
From: Jack Reingold, DPM
50 years ago this June, I started my accelerated 3-year program at CCPM in San Francisco. Yes, we were well prepared for a residency, but it was brutal! The answer has always been in understanding the uniqueness of our degree. We are 1 of 3 physician groups under federal regulations. However, we are the only specialty that you have to pick before starting your medical schooling. Our young undergrads and their pre-med advisors just don't know this. They did not 50 years ago and they do not now!
I have had more than a dozen undergrad students come through my office and every one of them became a podiatrist. Residencies for MDs or DOs are very competitive. Many who hope to become surgeons end up as primary caregivers. Nothing wrong with that, but it was not their first choice. What an opportunity podiatry is for undergraduates. Employment for life with great income. Guaranteed 3-year residency. Many sub-specialties, including surgery to pick from. We have failed for at least the past 50 years to educate pre-med advisors and students about what a great opportunity podiatry is. Better late than never to start now.
Jack Reingold, DPM, Encinitas, CA
06/25/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1B
From: Tim Vogler, DPM, BS-Mgmt
I did part of my training in the early nineties at the University of Missouri Kansas City School of Medicine. 75% of their medical students at that time were on a six-year track for their MD that started out of high school. They were exceptional students. When they started their internship residency, they were very well equipped, having had years of clinical experience which began in their first year.
The rising costs of undergraduate and professional education makes this pathway very attractive to young students; obviously by shaving off two years of tuition but with the added benefit of “earning” two years earlier which decreases the compound interest effect on their student loans significantly. Of course, the DPM curriculum would have to expand to include the preliminary sciences and courses to ensure communication skills, etc.
Podiatry education has been “streamlined” for decades for our specialty. Dr. Leonard Levy used to famously quote a study on the efficiency of our curriculum in preparing students for our profession (conducted outside of our profession). Podiatry should now capitalize on its background and use this to its advantage as a recruitment tool.
Tim Vogler, DPM, BS-Mgmt, Winston-Salem, NC
06/25/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1A
From: Amol Saxena, DPM, MPH,
The discussions about shortening podiatry school interest me. I had a colleague who went to University of California-Berkeley in the ‘70s who was in a 7-year program, three years of undergrad and 4 years at CCPM. His degree came from CCPM. That program was ended for unknown reasons to me, though UC Berkeley still has an optometry school there.
My MPH thesis was on shortening medical school to incentivize primary care enrollment. In my research, I found about 1/3 of US MD/DO schools have some form of a shortened pathway. Some had 2-3 years of undergrad while others had 3-4 years of medical school - in general, a 7-year track. I received kudos from my program (even being invited to be commencement speaker) but was told even Dartmouth Medical School would not entertain an accelerated track, despite being in a primary care shortage area. (My thesis defense is on my webpage.) Interestingly, my research revealed three medical schools had accelerated pathways to orthopedics.
During this time period (2021 onward), the AMA started their process to designate only MDs and DOs as physicians and surgeons. This was in part due to NPs and PTs using the designation "Doctor". I believe the longer training period at least for MD and DOs, is what they use to distinguish themselves from those professions. I believe they will use the same argument to differentiate themselves from the DPM degree.
Amol Saxena, DPM, MPH, Palo Alto, CA
06/25/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (PODIATRIC MEDICAL EDUCATION)
RE: A 3-Year DPM Degree
From: Allen M. Jacobs, DPM
I would like to offer a second alternative for your consideration with reference to addressing the "student recruitment crisis". That is to consider an accelerated podiatry school education program condensing the traditional 4-year DPM curriculum into 3 years.
Over 35 medical schools in the United States and Canada offer an accelerated MD pathway under the umbrella of the Consortium of Accelerated Medical Pathway Programs (CAMPP). Medical colleges such as Wayne State University school of medicine, University of Arizona College of medicine, NYU Grossman school of medicine, Penn State University school of medicine, the Ohio State University College of medicine all offer these programs. They do so for individuals who have determined the specialty into which they wish to...
Editor's note: Dr. Jacobs' extended-length letter appears here.
06/25/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (CODING & BILLING Q&As FROM CODINGHELPLINE.COM)
From: Kristin Happel
If you did enter the claim with a POS 12, there could be other factors at play. A few years ago, we realized that the ASCs we were doing surgery at were not supplying CAM boots anymore, because they weren't getting paid for them by most major insurances. So we started dispensing them before surgery, or having the doctor bring them to the ASC and dispense them the day of surgery, and we would put it out as a separate billing from the surgery.
Kristin Happel, Podiatry Biller, Chicago, IL
06/24/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1D
From: Mark A. Jones, DPM
I would advise direct admit to a podiatry college in a two-tiered approach. First would be to recruit and train podiatry nurse practitioners (NPs) who ultimately will be performing the bulk of non-operative footcare (see podiatry job boards). Some of those NPs will be exceptional and then could be offered the advanced DPM degree with the intent of becoming surgeons.
The surgical podiatrist would eventually oversee the clinical nurse practitioner (NP) and work collaboratively. Based on my search, the average salary for a NP in podiatry is around $135K while a surgical DPM estimate is between $230-300K or higher.
Mark A. Jones, DPM, Portage, IN
06/24/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1C
From: Gwen S. Greenberg, DPM
I have no particular objection to the academics of this proposal, and the logistics would be the subject of much discussion. An undergraduate student currently considering podiatric medicine is making a very specific life choice. However, they do have a number of years of college education and lived experience to help guide that choice.
An undergraduate student considering allopathic medicine is making a similar choice, but a lot less specific. They have several years of medical school and medical experiences prior to selecting among the wide variety of medical specialties. A medicine resident (as an example) has several more years prior to committing to a possible sub-specialty as vastly different as gastroenterology vs. cardiology.
My concern is about the level of sophistication of a high school student making such a lasting commitment to podiatry. Therefore, the proposal warrants careful consideration of whether high school is the right decision point for such a specialized path.
Gwen S. Greenberg, DPM, (retired) Allentown, PA
06/24/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1B
From: Chuck Langman, DPM
This link is a simple ChatGPT search. The premise that Americans are not ready to accept this is not at all backed up. I’m 64 years old and there have been accelerated programs here since I was in high school. A couple of prominent examples of their success are Michael Acker, MD, who was chief of cardiothoracic surgery and head of the cardiac transplant team at the University of Pennsylvania. He did a 6-year accelerated program at Brown University.
Another is Michael Kane, MD who completed the Pennsylvania State University/Thomas Jefferson Medical College program that was a 5-year combined program. He is a plastic surgeon on Park Ave in NYC and was the largest Botox user in the U.S. at one time. He lectures worldwide on the medical use of toxins. Some of his ideas opened the door for Botox use for migraines. My point is that this type of program is not only doable, but historically well-respected and produces extremely well-trained physicians.
Chuck Langman, DPM, King of Prussia, PA
06/24/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1A
From: Richard Graves, DPM
I am always interested and usually in alignment with Dr. Steinberg's responses. One thing I think must be clarified here: "...we need more WELL QUALIFIED AND PODIATRY-MOTIVATED students..." (not just more students).
Richard Graves, DPM, Long Beach, CA
06/24/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (PODIATRIC MEDICAL EDUCATION)
RE: The Cons and Pros of a Six-Year BS/DPM Program
Fro.m: Rod Tomczak, DPM, MD, EdD
Yes, a podiatry school can grant a DPM degree after a six-year post high school program. The problem is getting it recognized and accredited. If we’re not careful in fulfilling all the legal and bureaucratic requisites, the degree is a useless piece of paper. John Kennedy wanted a man on the moon before the '60s were over according to his May 25, 1961 speech to Congress. To successfully implement a six-year recognized high school to DPM degree will regrettably take some time, but maybe we could speed it up. I cut my own toenails in high school without a lot of schooling on how to do it.
I think we have to do something quickly to save what we have, but it will take chutzpah and time by the hoi polloi, not the politicians. Here are the impediments those of us who want to see the podiatric philosophy flourish will have to navigate. All of them lead to obstructionists who...
Editor's note: Dr. Tomczak's extended-length letter appears here
06/23/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART C
From: Richard Rettig, DPM, Robert Scott Steinberg, DPM
Dr. Jacobs and PM News readers may be interested in knowing that “back in my day” in the early ‘70s there was a very prestigious 5-year BS/MD program. This was before Penn State had a medical school, and they partnered with Jefferson Medical College for a 5-year (12 month continuous) program that was extremely competitive. I think they only took a small number of students each year and merged them in with the regular Jefferson class.
Richard Rettig, DPM (retired), Philadelphia, PA
I am sickened by the naysayers. First and foremost, we need more students. Nothing should get in the way of accomplishing that. The first podiatry school to offer such a track will likely receive the most applicants.
Robert Scott Steinberg, DPM, Schaumburg, IL
06/23/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1D
From: Allen M. Jacobs, DPM
The suggestion that podiatry consider a six-year combined DPM/bachelor's degree program was offered as a potential solution to the declining matriculation pool at our colleges. It has been suggested that, although this is a model followed by much of the world, it is not the model followed in the United States or Canada, and therefore is not appropriate for our society. I would like you to consider the following, however; this concern is based on a presumption that the current standards will continue to prevail. I’m not certain that is true as medical care has been rapidly changing in the United States and will continue to evolve and change.
I believe the proposal for a six-year combined DPM/bachelor's degree represents needed change, consistent with the changing environment of medical care in our country. In fact, if I had my way, I would even eliminate the mandatory bachelor's degree and simply go as a...
06/23/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1B
From: Bruce Lebowitz, DPM
I may have a unique experience regarding this topic. Back in 1968, following a successful year in podiatry school, I was convinced to join a friend into a medical school program in Antwerp, Belgium. What I found was the Belgian students were admitted after high school. However, their high school which they called gymnasium was really more equivalent to our high school plus two years of community college.
I only stayed one year as I found the medical school program and testing program was too stressful and difficult. I returned to podiatry school and completed my training and a one-year surgical residency. I would be very concerned that a high school student would be overwhelmed by the course of study accomplishing four years of college plus four years of podiatry compressed into six.
Bruce Lebowitz, DPM, Baltimore, MD
06/23/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1A
From: Christopher L. Hendrix, DPM
In response to Dr. Allen Jacobs’ recent recommendations regarding podiatric student recruitment, indeed, "someone is going to lose some money." Over the recent 20 years, academia has been weaponized. Every aspect of medical profession now achieves to provide a doctoral level degree - from nursing to pharmacy- from therapists to physicians. While the focus of progression has gradually switched to academic achievement, we have lost focus of some clinical acumen and expertise. I suggest and recommend each reader review the history of "Whither Podiatry" as one must know from whence they have come - to understand where they are headed.
Dr. Gary Jolly editorialized in JFAS 2003 thorough commentary regarding the status of podiatry while reflecting on Robert Samilson, MD, president of the American Orthopedic Foot and Ankle Society original 1973 comments titled "Whither Podiatry". Dr. Jacobs’ recommendations are spot-on, though it will take a significant shift in the current academic architecture to achieve such a goal. Currently, in the allopathic/osteopathic circles changes are ongoing. Osteopathic medical schools are opening within established medical center settings and allopathic training has morphed to an abbreviated didactic approach transitioning medical students directly to primary residency positions after the third year of medical school. Our profession should not fall behind in this regard. Dr. Jacobs noted that he anticipates negative feedback. I think this is brilliant and forward-thinking.
Christopher L. Hendrix, DPM, Memphis, TN
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1C
From: James Sang, DPM
I applaud Dr. Jacobs for proposing a potential solution for the current student recruitment crisis. Since all of the podiatry schools are now part of a university system, the proposed model of direct entry into the podiatric medical school without a bachelor's degree (similar to the British education model) may pose a challenge. This is due to significant curricular changes, which require approval from the university governing structure, certain state education boards, other regulatory/certification bodies, and modification of the current CPME accreditation requirements.
An alternative approach would be to mirror the current 6 years or 7 years direct entry programs for MD, DO, DPT, and PharmD programs, where the admitted students would get awarded a bachelor’s degree (after so many years of schooling) and professional degree (MD, DO, DPT, or PharmD) at the end of 6 or 7 years, depending on the program. This does NOT eliminate the bachelor's degree requirement for the DPM program, but allows for the student to complete both degrees in a short time frame. There are very few 6 years bachelors/MD or DO programs out there since many medical school direct entry programs favor the 7 years or 8 years model. Currently, Howard University and University of Missouri - Kansas City offer 6 years bachelor's/MD direct entry and LECOM offers 6 years bachelor's/DO direct entry programs. If podiatric medical schools were to experiment with this accelerated direct entry model, LECOM and Western (which currently offers a 7 years bachelor's/DO direct entry program) should trial this since those universities are already doing this.
James Sang, DPM, Boston, MA
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1B
From: James J. DiResta, DPM, MPH
Dr. Jacobs presents a novel idea/solution for our profession's dilemma in our student recruitment problem. Ironically, I spent this past week writing a discussion board paper comparing the healthcare system of a Scandinavian country, in my case Sweden, with that of the U.S., and to try to understand once again why their medical outcomes are better, cost of healthcare less, life expectancy longer, and their student medical education either free or of low cost. Student medical education in Sweden and in Norway is free for permanent residents. They follow the 6-year model that Dr. Jacobs described. In my work as an admissions reviewer for graduate work in public health and research I come across many applicant physicians who have followed this model and their cand.med degree (Norway and Sweden) is equivalent to our MD degree in the states as is the MBBS degree awarded in countries like India and the UK.
As we can envision politics, power and money will drive the opposition. Watching how our leadership responded to the ACGME fiasco, I think this new proposed hurdle would be difficult if not impossible to overcome. But as the saying goes, Never Say Never. I like Dr. Jacobs’ idea of "out-of-the-box thinking" and would propose that in developing this "new" curriculum for podiatry that it mirrors that of the cand.med. and MBBS curriculum with the caveat of additional podiatry-specific courses and clerkships. Perhaps one or two of our colleges can arrange a partnership for a pilot program with a western European or Asian medical school so as to award the cand.med. or MBBS degree to our graduates. This would force state medical boards to award these podiatry graduates MD status and put all the foolishness of allopathic and osteopathic discrimination against podiatry to rest, once and for all!
James J. DiResta, DPM, MPH, Newburyport, MA
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1A
From: Thomas A. Graziano, DPM, MD, Erik L Kenyon, DPM
Dr. Jacobs is correct when stating that the rest of the world has a direct entry program from high school to medical school. This typically takes 6 years to accomplish. I think it's a great idea for all the reasons Dr. Jacobs stated in his post. The only issue I can see with this program in the U.S. is that the rest of allopathic/osteopathic medical education here does not universally embrace that model. We've always been unnecessarily under the microscope when it comes to our current model of education and this would provide more ammunition or fuel for our detractors. It may attract more applicants but at the same time be a step backward in the parity the profession fought hard to reach over the years. I'm interested in what others have to say about the idea.
Thomas A. Graziano, DPM, MD, Clifton, NJ
How many of those countries allow admission and surgery of the provider to a hospital? Not a co-admit or limited to forefoot surgery only? It may be a quicker line to a degree, but the current candidates don’t need anything faster, but something more robust and much more selective. Graduating more, less qualified people should never be a solution. Unfortunately, the residents today aren’t the same as 20 years ago. A few are, but only a select few.
Erik L Kenyon, DPM, Modesto, CA
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (MEDICARE FRAUD)
From: Bret M. Ribotsky, DPM
Yes — and my experience may resonate with many PM News readers. In 2015, following a significant injury while volunteering with the United States Coast Guard, I began what would become a multi-years-long odyssey of Medicare and insurance fraud perpetrated in my name. The scheme followed me through every phase of my coverage.
It began with Blue Cross Blue Shield, through which fraudulent claims were submitted for wheelchairs and home health devices — including compression devices, TENS units, and other durable medical equipment — that I never received. As my coverage transitioned to federal workers’ compensation, the fraudulent billing continued, with additional wheelchairs billed to that program as well. When I was ultimately placed on Medicare, two more wheelchair claims appeared — again, for equipment I never received.
The bitter irony is this: I did use a wheelchair — for approximately the first four months following my injury. It was a rental. I paid for it out of pocket. My insurer, despite having been reimbursed, never paid me back a dime. I reported the fraud to Medicare, to my insurers, to the Florida State Attorney’s office, and to my local congressman. The collective response was, in a word, indifference. No meaningful investigation that I was ever made aware of. No restitution. No accountability. Yes, this happens systematically, it followed me across three separate coverage programs, and the safeguards designed to catch it failed at every level. I suspect I am far from alone.
Bret M. Ribotsky, DPM, Fort Lauderdale, FL
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (AI)
From: Peter Sorensen, DPM
The bigger shift is that we now have more than one free, NPI-gated AI built for clinicians. OpenEvidence is one; OpenAI's own ChatGPT for Clinicians launched in April. It's also free, also NPI-verified, with cited literature answers, a deep-research mode, and CME on eligible reviews. "Designed for physicians" doesn't mean "safe for PHI." Both are fine for general questions with no identifiers, and both need a signed BAA before any patient data goes in — OpenEvidence markets full HIPAA/SOC 2 with a free org-level BAA, while ChatGPT for Clinicians treats HIPAA support as optional (no PHI without one). It's not automatically HIPAA-compliant with the advanced features unless a BAA is signed, which usually happens at the institutional level. The tool you pick matters less than the habits around it.
Peter Sorensen, DPM, Indianapolis, IN
06/22/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT) - PART 1D
From: Rod Tomczak, DPM, MD, EdD
“Some places will never let progress interfere with 100 years of tradition.” So said Dr. Battinelli of Northwell/Hofstra School of Medicine. I have been advocating change in podiatry schools since 1986. Faculty and administration, including CPME, wanted to see Problem-based Learning fail at Des Moines so I would cease to be a threat and would go away. It didn’t and I didn’t.
Personally, I have a certain disdain for any most podiatric school curricula. I don’t think they are structured correctly, taught efficiently, or learned favorably, but I am but one voice crying out in the wilderness of the medical school experience. It took six years to earn a doctorate in education from Drake and I never missed a class, nights after a full day at DMU or all day Saturday and Sunday. I cannot say the same for my attendance at...
Editor's note: Dr. Tomczak's extended-length letter appears here.
06/19/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES)
From: Medline Industries
On June 11, 2026, a fire occurred at Medline's Tracy, California distribution facility. All personnel were safely evacuated with no injuries reported. To ensure continuity of care for your patients, Medline is actively fulfilling orders through its national distribution network. Podiatric practices in affected regions should be aware of the following:
• Continue placing orders through your normal channels.
• Some deliveries may arrive 24–48 hours later than usual.
• Order early, especially for time-sensitive or overnight needs.
• A limited number of products with high Tracy inventory concentration may require substitutions — your Medline representative will communicate any impacts directly.
Medline remains fully committed to ensuring that podiatric practices experience minimal disruption to patient care during this recovery period.
Medline Industries
06/19/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (STUDENT RECRUITMENT)
RE: A Potential Solution to the Student Recruitment Crisis
From: Allen M. Jacobs, DPM
I would like to offer a potential solution for the current podiatry college "recruitment crisis". The solution requires out-of-the-box thinking and a dramatic change in the education of our future podiatric physicians. Change is always difficult.
My proposal is that the podiatry colleges, at least one or two as an initial program, institute a direct admission program for the DPM degree. That is to say, admitting students directly from high school into the colleges of podiatry for a five or six year combined DPM and bachelor of arts or bachelor of science degree.
Before you react, keep in mind that with the exception of the United States and Canada, the rest of this world has direct admission of students from high school into medical school. This includes European countries, the United Kingdom, Australia, Asia, South America, and...
Editor's note: Dr. Jacobs' extended-length letter appears here.
06/19/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (AI)
From: George Jacobson, DPM
Why not use the AI designed for Physicians? ChatGPT says, "Open Evidence states that it is HIPAA compliant and will sign a Business Associate Agreement (BAA) for covered entities. Open Evidence announced HIPAA compliance in April 2025 and states that it complies with HIPAA Privacy, Security, and Breach Notification Rules."
I mentioned this AI before. It is for physicians; you must have an NPI number.
George Jacobson, DPM, Hollywood, FL
06/19/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (MEDICARE FRAUD)
From: Gary S Smith DPM
I am a Medicare fraud victim too. Recently Medicare demanded repayment for claims they "over paid" three years ago. There was no explanation and no details. It was for about 10 patients' normal visits. I thought I would just bill the patients and let them deal with Medicare over it but, by some extradentary coincidence, they are all deceased. This has happened a few times over the last 6 years. Every time there is no explanation and always some coincidence like the staff forgot to have them sign an ABN so I could not bill them.
PICA provides legal help with these things. I contacted them the first time and they set me up with a lawyer in Utah that had no office, just a cell phone. He was worthless and my PICA insurance has gone up 50% since then. Every time I hear about Medicare fraud now, I take it with a grain of salt.
Gary S Smith, DPM, Bradford, PA
06/18/2026
RESPONSES/COMMENTS (MEDICARE FRAUD)
RE: I am a Medicare Fraud Victim
From: Paul Kesselman, DPM
For the third time in the last year, my Medicare number was billed for DME equipment I did not order, was not prescribed, had no use for, and NEVER RECEIVED! Twice last year, I was billed for continuous glucose monitors, despite the fact that I am not diabetic. One CGM provider was paid, the other was nailed with a same or similar denial and not paid. I reported that to Medicare and In December 2025, my account was billed for approximately $4,000 in upper extremity and back braces. I have since changed my Medicare number and so far, so good.
As physicians, we have several obligations; at the very least to provide the best care we can in the most ethical manner possible. One other obligation is to ensure that the way that care is paid for is preserved for future generations. In my opinion, these are both...
Editor's note: Dr. Kesselman's extended-length letter can be read here.
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