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06/23/2025 Rod Tomczak, DPM, MD, EdD
Other non-MD, non-DO Doctor Healthcare Providers
I thought it might be interesting to look at the data surrounding other non-physicians, but in a non-judgmental view, of course. Draw your own conclusions but be sure to refrain from rash judging anyone blowing their own horn about how hard they work and the good they do. A lot of the following data had large ranges, so I used the Jethro Bodine average technique. For those who aren’t familiar with Jethro it went something like; “Cipher, carry, naught, naught, carry, cipher, etc…”
Doctors of Chiropractic
There are 18 accredited chiropractic colleges in the US with 2800 first year students right now. In 2023, approximately 2700 students were awarded a Doctor of Chiropractic degree. Tuition per year averages about $30,000 and the average income is $89,000 per year. Average admission GPA is 3.38 and a school can suffer loss of accreditation if they admit anyone with a GPA below 3.0. Most accredited chiropractic schools offer business courses in practice management, business administration, ethics and law, and professional development. These include office set up, billing, insurance, CPT/ICD, accounting, budgeting, marketing, risk management, HIPAA, entrepreneurship, and time management.
Chiropractors have fellowships and chiropractors call themselves “sports, neurologic, pediatric, rehabilitation and orthopedic chiropractors.” There is a sports chiropractor who has patented, yes patented, certain chiropractic techniques and supposedly a chiropractor is not allowed to use them without paying this person to learn them. I’m not sure what happens if a run of the mill chiropractor pushes on a motor point without permission. There are threats of suits over advertising about the use of the technique without permission from the inventor/discoverer or patent holder.
There are several organizations that accredit or better recognize different fellowships. It doesn’t look like there is a central recognizing organization meaning you could start your own organization and certify yourself?
Doctor of Dental Surgery or Medical Dentistry There are 76 accredited dental schools in the US with 7,000 first year students. Approximately 6,800 students were awarded Doctors of Dental Surgery or Medical Dentistry degrees. Tuition varied greatly between public and private schools and between in state and out of state tuition. The overall tuition average is about $50,000 per year. The average income is $180,000 for non-surgeons and about $350,000 for surgeons. Average GPA is 3.53 overall and is 3.4 for science GPA. There have been recent legal disputes and threats of lawsuits concerning dental certifications and specialties. It may sound familiar but these squabbles concern advertising rights, titles such as surgeons, oral surgeons even when one is a doctor of dental surgery. Credentialing at surgery centers also comes into play with the use of titles and procedures. In some states specialists may not perform routine dental fillings if, say, one has completed an orthodontia residency and dentists without a surgical residency cannot insert implants.
Doctor of Veterinary Medicine
There are 33 accredited colleges of Veterinary Medicine in the US with 3,860 first year students. There were 3,000 graduates in 2024. The average tuition per year is $50,000 and the average income is $136,000. The average undergraduate GPA is between 3.3 and 3.7 for top-tier vet schools. There are no required admission tests for veterinary medicine schools but students need to distinguish themselves showing a keen interest in animals.
Veterinarians are often required to complete post graduate training in programs that mimic human systems like cardiology, neurology, anesthesiology or emergency medicine, critical care, large animal, or zoological medicine and become board certified. Our vet recently saw one of our Shiatzu's and called when the lab results were back. He said it was refreshing to talk to patient owners who knew what he was talking about.
Doctor of Optometry
There are 26 accredited optometry schools with 2,079 first year students. There were 1800 OD degrees awarded in 2024. The average GPA for admission to optometry school is 3.55. The average tuition is $40,000 per year and the average yearly income for optometrists is $134,000. Optometrists often complete a one year residency and some go on to do more extensive residencies in areas such as contact lenses, pediatrics, geriatrics, neuro- optometry. It appears all are non-surgical. There is a board certification process involving three years of practice or a residency then an examination. It seems there are multiple boards but the American Board of Optometry is the most respected.
Doctor of Nursing (certified Register Nurse Anesthetist)
There are 141 accredited 3 year nurse anesthesia doctoral granting schools in the US. There are about 3,000 first year nurse anesthesia students in the US and 2,400 nurse anesthetists were graduated last year. The average admission GPA from a BSN program to the nurse anesthetist doctoral programs ranges from 3.5 and to 3.75 for top nurse anesthetist schools. Most programs require the RN to have at least a year’s experience, some more, in a level one trauma center ICU prior to application.
Overall, the tuition for the nurse anesthesia three-year program is $60,000 per year. There are public in-state programs with tuitions as low as $25,000 per year compared to private school tuition as high as $80,000 per year. The average cRNA salary is $223,000 for a 10- hour, 4-day week. Some salaries are over $300,000 with the paid benefits that an RN would receive in a hospital. Almost all cRNAs are employed with very few in private practice, but in some states nurse anesthetists can work independently without a supervising MD or DO anesthesiologists. In these states they can work in a dental or podiatry office and administer general anesthesia and bill on their own. Some cRNAs complete fellowships in pain management or critical care. There is a test to become board certified and is required for licensing.. Some fellowships are accredited by ACGME if they take place with MDs or DOs in teaching hospitals.
How do you think we measure up against these other professions and if we’re on even ground why do we get a few hundred applicants and they get thousands? And that’s not matriculated students.
Rod Tomczak, DPM, MD, EdD, Columbus, OH
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06/26/2025 James DiResta, DPM, MPH
Other Non-MD, Non-DO Doctor Healthcare Providers (Rod Tomczak, DPM, MD, EdD)
While I don't disagree with the need for podiatry to visit more colleges to gain more exposure to potential applicants, I am more concerned about the watering down of our applicants' strength to schools of podiatric medicine. The problem as we have stated over and over is how can we possibly get enough qualified students is this diminishing pool. Schools of osteopathic medicine are growing exponentially? For example, have you ever heard of Debusk College of Osteopathic Medicine? It has 2 schools in Tennessee now and a third opening in Florida in 2026. Did you know MSU has 3 campuses now of osteopathic medical students. How about Meritus School of Osteopathic Medicine in Maryland? How about The Edward Via College of Osteopathic Medicine (VCOM) now in 4 campuses!
There are 43 osteopathic schools listed but in reality there are presently 69 campuses and many more coming. The mean MCAT of all their schools for 2024 is 502.43 and falling. Several of the schools are below 500. The mean score at one school is 497. Unlike AACPM, AACOM is quite transparent in revealing the data if you are willing to search for it. A score of 497 puts you at the 39%percentile and considering half the class score less than that how the heck is podiatry going to get enough matriculants to our schools of limited licensure when you can get an unrestricted medical license by attending a school of osteopathic medicine.
I cannot believe that our leadership didn't see this day coming. BUT no time to place blame. Our leadership must try to pave a path forward. Listen to Rod Tomczak, we need to make a deal with osteopathic medicine to get our students a DO degree with or without the DPM and to establish a specialty residency of podiatric medicine and surgery under their wings. Applicants need an unrestricted license if we want to stay the 4-4-3 route.
The other alternative is to either keep reasonable standards for applicants and watch our profession evaporate or throw all we have accomplished away and go backwards to a profession of glorified chiropodists. Drop the MCAT requirements, lessen prerequisites to 2 years of college and make the schools of podiatry three years in length. Forget you ever had parity. The podiatry profession needs to wake up!
James DiResta, DPM, MPH, Newburyport, MA
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