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10/24/2022 Robert Kornfeld, DPM
The High Cost of Being a Foot and Ankle Surgeon
I have been reading the posts about the high cost of being a podiatric surgeon and would like to chime in for those of you who are sick and tired of fighting with insurance companies and being forced into high volume, high expense practices. I am a 1980 graduate of NYCPM. When I went into my own private practice in 1982, there were only cash patients, Medicare and indemnity plans that paid 80% of everything you billed (there were no fee schedules back then). Some insurance companies paid based on location and estimated expense levels, but most paid 80%.
That golden goose died when podiatric surgeons started billing for multiple procedures with no bundling. This led insurance companies to look for more cost effective (profitable) models. Hence, managed care hit the scene. Now, you were at the mercy of the insurance company. Most offices must hire full time staff just to fight for money that is rightfully theirs. The entire system sucks! Please don't answer this post with the nonsensical "altruism" defense. You are in business to make a living. With the responsibilities we shoulder, we should be paid a lot of money. Otherwise, why bother?
In 2000, I had had enough of the insurance game. I decided that I would drop out of every plan and go direct pay. The first year was scary. My gross income dropped 50%. Until I realized I had better get busy marketing my services to the public. I had a weekly radio show. I did public lectures. I wrote articles for local magazines. And it was a no- brainer. I developed a low volume, low stress, high income practice. It is not only possible, you will prosper if you do the right kind of marketing with a strong niche.
The only warning! Since Covid, less people have been willing to pay out of pocket. I am sure other direct pay docs will admit that their volume is down. But of course, this won't last forever. What I can guarantee, if you stay with the current insurance model, you will eventually be making so little profit that you'll have to look for a second job.
Robert Kornfeld, DPM, NY, NY
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10/19/2022 Kathleen Toepp Neuhoff, DPM
The High Cost of Being a Foot and Ankle Surgeon (Vincent Marino, DPM)
I have appreciated the discussion on the costs of hospital surgery vs clinical outpatient care and certainly agree that income per hour is much higher in the office vs the OR. As was pointed out, some of this is because of the fees. Some of it is also because of the inefficiencies of OR surgeries. This can be improved by using surgericenters and scheduling back to back procedures. However, the hourly reimbursement rate is also improved by performing many procedures such as exostectomies or hammer digit correction in your office.
Even if you cannot meet the criteria for a surgericenter, it is not difficult to dedicate a room to sterile surgery. Infection rates are generally lower in this environment than in hospital ORs. Many patients are willing to have procedures done with local anesthesia and COVID-19 fears made many patients prefer an office surgery to a hospital surgery.
With a good staff, the patient is roomed, consent and initial prep done while you continue to see patients. You pop in to meet with the patient, and give the local anesthesia, then see another outpatient, then scrub in, perform the surgery, have your scribe chart the surgery note while you do the surgery, and return to your outpatients while your staff discharges the patient, reviews the post-op instructions, takes post-op radiographs and schedules the next appointment. Although the patient is probably in your office for over an hour, your total time in the OR may be 10 to 20 minutes which makes the fee paid much more acceptable.
One of the concerns I have with our surgical residency programs is that residents rarely have the opportunity to perform surgeries in offices and will not be comfortable doing so. The cost of their education is so high that they need every advantage possible. Finally, it is important that we remember the main stakeholders in our care are our patients.
Clearly for certain procedures such as tarsal tunnel and rearfoot reconstructive surgeries hospital or surgericenters are the only reasonable option. Also, a patient who prefers that environment or who prefers MAC or general anesthesia should have their preference honored even for a minor procedure. Fortunately, the variety of work we can do in podiatry not only make it fun, it also protects us a little bit from the "fee adjustments" made to surgery fees by Medicare and insurance carriers.
Kathleen Toepp Neuhoff, DPM, South Bend, IN
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