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08/25/2022 Paul Kesselman, DPM
NC Podiatrist Owes $895K in Student Debt (Michael M. Rosenblatt DPM)
I have to agree with Dr. Rosenblatt and disagree with Dr. Chaskin's use of the word "fiduciary". Dr. Rosenblatt's reference to his experiences rang a familiar ear to me as I too was headed towards a musical career. However, I too realized that either you were one of tens of thousands of gifted musicians who would be working or traveling when your families were home, poor or if you were one in a million would become famous. There are avocations such as music and art where most people do not become famous or financially secure. And there are vocations where most people do become financially secure. Thus I made the choice to pursue a career in healthcare. That is the key word, I made a choice.
Dr. Rosenblatt is also absolutely correct, no institution can guarantee you anything in life and you as an individual have to make a choice. Even those who graduate from medical or osteopathic school are not guaranteed they will obtain a residency, certainly not in their first or even secondary specialty field of choice.
As for the use of the word fiduciary, that is a legal term and I am not sure if that is appropriate here.
No more so than Juilliard or any liberal arts school has any responsibility to provide students with guarantees of a promising successful career. If that were the case, every cabdriver, waiter/waitress in NYC who are aspiring actors, artists, etc. would have a legal case against the institutions which they had attended. Or is that more on the student and their family to investigate and ask some hard questions at their interviews and do the required research on their own?
Perhaps this specific student also has some responsibilities for this lofty student loan. We have no idea what their loans were in undergraduate or other graduate programs prior to podiatry. Let us also not forget that the school's job is to provide an education, which they do. Is it the institution's fault if the student does poorly academically, has poor hand eye coordination and does not perform well in labs or performing surgical techniques? Is not a team player and performs poorly on externships and residency interviews or if successful at all of those, fails their boards multiple times?Those certainly are reasons beyond the responsibility of the school.
Perhaps Dr. Chaskin meant to say the schools have a moral responsibility to provide students with what happens after they successfully navigate their four years of undergraduate podiatric medical education and provide them with the realities of post graduate employment data, etc. That I would agree on. But again that guarantees the student nothing.
I remember having traveled to Chicago more than 45 years ago this week to begin attending ICPM. I knew at that time that not every graduate would get a residency, but I also knew many DPMs at the time were financially secure. Thus I did my homework, asking those difficult questions at interviews and of established podiatrists at the time. Every student attending any educational institution should be doing their homework as well, in advance of signing any agreement to attend any educational program.
Perhaps I too have been using the term "fiduciary" incorrectly. Perhaps it would be best for those legal scholars and I know they are out there reading this, who can provide us with a better interpretation of fiduciary and let us know if that term really does apply here. From my limited legal knowledge, I do not believe it does.
Paul Kesselman, DPM, Oceanside, NY
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08/25/2022 Robert Kornfeld, DPM
NC Podiatrist Owes $895K in Student Debt (Michael M. Rosenblatt DPM)
Comparing podiatry to music does not address the problem of high student debt and potentially low income. I graduated NYCPM 42 years ago. When I went into private practice, podiatry was a very lucrative field. We worked hard but we were paid very well. And our student debt was not even close to overwhelming or insurmountable. The problem is that in the early ‘90s, insurance companies created managed care (managed fees) and our then leadership pushed very hard to get podiatry covered under these plans.
Now, this many years later, tuitions have risen dramatically, managed care’s fees are a fraction of what they once were and podiatrists still do not have parity with MDs and DOs. To run a practice, you must see an enormous amount of patients, which means large staff and skyrocketing expenses. This is completely unacceptable.
I mourn the loss of my early days in practice where my income soared to very respectable levels very quickly and continued to rise every year. I was making an enormous income and worked hard to satisfy my patients and build my reputation. My practice grew until I began joining insurance panels and my income leveled off and eventually began falling slowly after 20 years in practice. Those of us who got sick and tired of working like dogs for low pay left the insurance game to work smart, not hard. Direct pay is challenging in different ways but it lowers the stress level dramatically. I am now working 20 hours/week.
I see 1/10 the amount of patients I used to see and my net income has only dropped 20%. That said, in my honest opinion (and I have an enormous amount of experience in podiatry and I’m still practicing), this is NOT a viable profession any longer. Unless something changes in a big way, explain to me why anyone would put in 4 years of college, 4 years of podiatry school, 3 years of residency and ongoing CME requirements every year to become a podiatrist and struggle to pay their bills? This system is terribly broken and yet new podiatry schools keep opening up. There’s no question in my mind that these schools are now marketing a myth to prospective students so they can fill their classes and collect huge tuitions. The bubble is bursting all around us. The glory days of being a doctor are long over. The future holds no promise of improvement. And that, quite sadly, is the absolute truth.
Robert Kornfeld, DPM, NY, NY
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