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06/14/2021 Paul Kesselman, DPM
Scope of Practice of Nurse Practitioners (Bryan Markinson, DPM)
Having shared an office with a PCP for over thirty five years and practicing podiatry for just a tad longer than that and being a patient of PCP and a myriad of medical/specialists I feel not only qualified but obligated to respond to this thread. There is no way that I as a practicing podiatrist whether I had an MD/DO or DPM degree that I want to be compared to an NP nor can I state that I am qualified as they are to provide primary care. I have seen not only what the PCP does but what the NP does in the primary setting as both patient and provider. I have also been to four different specialists for a variety of routine issues (nothing serious fortunately) in the last two months.
When they ask me or I state certain things which are related to primary care, the MD/DO specialists immediately state that's not their area of expertise. The same is true for the NP in these specialty practices. So why if we are now pushing for MD/DO equivalency(and whether that is right or wrong is another story), do we want to be compared to providing primary care as well as an NP? It is absolutely dangerous and wrong! Dr. Markinson's past comments were dead on correct!
I as a DPM don't want to be compared to being equivalent to an NP.
Are we as DPMs qualified to do certain things that a PCP can do in a pinch or routinely? Of course and the PHE certainly proved that. Blood Pressure, taking weight, height, drawing blood, starting IVs, administering vaccines are certainly basic medical tasks that all licensed physicians (and nurses) should be able to perform.
Beyond that certain PCP issues such as titrating thyroid and insulin or oral anticoagulants and diabetic meds are almost certainly primary care issues which even the overwhelming majority of surgical MD/DO specialists such as ortho, neurosx, plastics, general, vascular etc. would not want to touch. I dare say even the medical specialists who are not daily practicing internal medicine but only providing specialty care such as pulmonary, GI pathology, radiology) etc. would not want to touch those and other issues unless they are also routinely handling those matters. Furthermore their professional liability carriers might cover them only for those areas of their specialty unless they specifically request primary care liability coverage, which many medical specialists may not.
So what exactly are my colleagues missing here about the NP issue? If the MD/DO specialists don't want to be involved in primary care why should I as a DPM?
I do agree with Dr. Amer w/respect to the issue of wound care and the issues regarding our limitation to the lower extremity. If we are board certified in wound care and that exam is the same regardless of your professional degree then there should be no anatomical limit. However, state scope of practice(s) would need to be reflective of that in order for your professional liability to cover you for such acts.
That is a very tall order given that even in the most liberal of states, podiatry has a strict anatomical limit on its scope of practice. So merely passing the exam as Dr. Armer appears to have done, will have any practical effect not only because of his degree, but because of the state scope of practice primarily and secondary insurance.
Which brings us right back to the first paragraph. Even with an ophthalmologist (as an example) having a plenary medical license, what hospital is going to provide privileges and what professional liability carrier is going to cover that ophthalmologist from performing a cardiac bypass surgery, an upper GI endoscopy, performing a TMA etc.? Dr. Armer is correct regarding not wanting to provide primary care, but the other issues he raises are also correct, but will take a radical change to implement, even with a plenary license.
Paul Kesselman, DPM, Oceanside, NY
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