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10/10/2019 Kim G. Gauntt, DPM
Are you getting a flu shot this season? (Robert Scott Steinberg, DPM)
It was an interesting response from Dr. Steinberg. The part about “believing in medicine“. A few years ago, I spent 3 days researching this topic, most of the information came directly from the CDC website. I read the bulk of the studies available at the time , their statistics and conclusions. The fact is that influenza is not a reportable disease, therefore all of the numbers that they publish in regard to those suffering from influenza and the deaths associated with it are made up numbers, extrapolated from very small samples, the website actually states that.
The fact is most people do not die from influenza they die from secondary pneumonia and those numbers are also extrapolated from a very small population samples. Deaths for the most part are in small isolated groups in the population.
Two seasons ago, here in Oregon most of the smaller hospitals were overwhelmed by people with the flu, one of our local hospitals was at capacity and everyone of those admitted for influenza had in fact had the vaccine. If one does not believe that the vaccine Mania is driven by the pharmaceutical companies and the monetary gain that they get from same, just look at the signs in front of every drugstore advertising “free” flu shots, even at Safeway.
I certainly believe in medicine, I practice it every day, but I also believe in us being scientists and independently evaluating, not just believing the news or what was printed in the paper or even spouted by the hospitals. Certainly there are those who fall into high risk groups and they should thoughtfully consider the issue but to make a blanket statement that if you don’t get a flu shot you don’t believe in medicine is shameful. Remember there was a time in human history when the greatest of medical minds believed in treating evil spirits and humors.
Kim G. Gauntt, DPM, Newberg, OR
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10/10/2019 David Secord, DPM
Are you getting a flu shot this season? (Robert Scott Steinberg, DPM)
As long as Dr. Steinberg wants us to believe in "medicine" as regards the influenza vaccine, I would encourage him to then "believe the science": Flu Vaccine for All: A Critical Look at the Evidence, Eric A. Biondi, MD, MS; C. Andrew Aligne, MD, MPH, |December 21, 2015
Question: Does the evidence support the call for universal influenza vaccination? Response from Eric A. Biondi, MD, MS Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, Pediatric Hospitalist, University of Rochester Medical Center, Rochester, New York
Response from C. Andrew Aligne, MD, MPH Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, Director of The Hoekelman Center, University of Rochester School of Medicine & Dentistry, Rochester, New York Influenza vaccination is a yearly ritual. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)[1] and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)[2] recommend annual influenza vaccination for all healthy persons 6 months of age or older who are without contraindications. In an interview published in The Atlantic,[3] Tom Jefferson, head of the Vaccine Field Group at the Cochrane Database Collaboration (the world's leading producer of evidence-based medical reviews), voiced serious reservations about the data supporting influenza vaccine recommendations, stating that "The vast majority of the studies [are] deeply flawed. Rubbish is not a scientific term, but I think it's the term that applies." A critical look at the evidence raises further questions about the flu shot recommendations. A 2012 Cochrane review[4] examining the efficacy of pediatric influenza vaccination noted that: ...industry-funded studies were published in more prestigious journals and cited more than other studies, independent of methodological quality and size. Studies funded from public sources were significantly less likely to report conclusions favorable to [influenza] vaccines... reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies. And a 2014 Cochrane review[5] examining use of flu vaccine in healthy adults, including pregnant women, concluded that: [Influenza] vaccination shows no appreciable effect on working days lost or hospitalization. This, in light of the recent publication: Flu Vaccine Cuts Adult Deaths and Child Hospitalizations, Marcia Frellick, October 07, 2019
WASHINGTON, DC — Influenza vaccination reduces the risk for severe outcomes in adults by more than one-third, and the risk for hospitalization in children by half, according to the result of two new studies. The size of these studies over multiple seasons and the rigor of the investigations should give physicians powerful new evidence for vaccine-hesitant patients and parents, said Kristina Bryant, MD, from Norton Children's Hospital and the University of Louisville in Kentucky.
"When our patients don't accept flu vaccine, we need to ask why," she told Medscape Medical News. A common answer is that they had the vaccine one year and still got the flu. These studies provide evidence that although the vaccine might not always prevent illness, it likely will reduce severity and even prevent deaths, she said.
The most sick I've ever been in my life was the two weeks during the first year of my residency, when I was forced to get the influenza vaccine. At its worse, for two days, I couldn't even keep down water. That was tough to endure when you are working hours a week, as I was. I don't get the 'flu shot', as I don't do well with it and metanalysis shows that it is worthless as regards mortality and morbidity.
I do follow the CDC recommendation that the very young, the very old and the immunocompromised receive the vaccination. I highly encourage everyone to receive the pneumonia vaccination, as that is the same virus every year, unlike the influenza virus. By the way, I couldn't help not notice that the monograph detailing the results of the Influenza Hospitalization Surveillance Network (FluSurv-NET) didn't bother to mention that the vaccination two seasons ago was deemed by the CDC as ineffectual as it had little relation to that season's virus. How could that not have affected the outcomes? I'm going to go with the conclusion of the first article I posted here and that it represents "Rubbish".
David Secord, DPM, Corpus Christi, TX
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